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« on: April 01, 2007, 11:43:56 am »

    Necrotizing fasciitis

    What is it?
    • Bacterial infection
      Attacks soft tissue & fascia
      Sparing underlying muscles
      Uncommon
      May affect any part of the body

    organism
    Type I, or polymicrobial NF, usually occurs after trauma or surgery: This form may initially be mistaken for a simple wound cellulitis.
    Type II, or group A streptococcal NF, is the so-called flesh-eating bacterial infection
    Type III NF, or clostridial myonecrosis, is gas gangrene. This skeletal muscle infection may be associated with recent surgery or trauma

    Etiology: 
    Blunt or penetrating trauma
    Surgery
    IV drug use
    Childbirth
    Burns

    Predisposing factors
    Can happen to anyone...young, old, adult, child, any race, any size, healthy or not.
    RISK…
    Immunosuppression
    Advancing age
    Chronic renal failure
    Peripheral vascular disease
    Diabetes Mellitus 
    Intravenous drug user
    Obesity

    Pathophysiology
    Enters the body & quickly multiplies 
    Produces toxins & enzymes that destroy the subcutaneous tissue & fascia
    Tissues become gangrenous
    Bacteria can hide itself from the body's innate immune system, allowing it to spread rapidly

    Symptoms (early findings)
    Begin with constitutional symptoms of fever
    Pain
    Erythema
    Tachycardia
    Swelling
    Nerve affected à skin anesthesia

    Symptoms (Late findings)
    Extreme pain
    Skin discoloration (purple or black)
    Blistering
    Hemorrhagic bullae
    Crepitus on palpation
    Severe sepsis or SIRS
    MODS

    photos of necrotizing fasciitis:

    source: http://www.emedicine.com


    source: webs.wichita.edu/.../lecture17/lecture17.html

    Diagnosis is still primarily clinical & high index of suspicion


    source: en.wikibooks.org/.../Necrotizing_fasciitis
    56 year old man with acute leukemia and necrotizing fasciitis
    note the gas on plain films (its absence does not rule out the disease)

    Management
    Immediate resuscitation
    Broad spectrum IV antibiotics
    Aggressive surgical debridement

    Following debridement
    Sterile dressing
    Wound coverage
    Split thickness skin grafting
    Tissue transfer


    split skin graft
    source: http://www.vanceairscoop.com

    Reference:
    Hasham S, Matteucci P, Stanley PRW, Necrotising fasciitis, BMJ 330(7495) 830-833
    Maynor M, Necrotizing Fasciitis, http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic332.htm

    Questions:
    Is there a way to detect the problem earlier?
    Can we differentiate cellulitis from necrotizing fasciitis in early course of the disease?
    Can necrotizing fasciitis be prevented?
    Can hyperbaric oxygen play a role in the management of this problem?

    Let’s discuss them together
    please inform me if there is any problem with this post
    thanks  Wink
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    « Reply #1 on: April 01, 2007, 12:00:59 pm »

    Necrotising fasciitis on appearance is more patchy and less uniform compared to cellulitis. Other than that, I am not sure how to differentiate between the two based on clinical presentations. Any opinions?
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    « Reply #2 on: April 03, 2007, 02:30:00 pm »

    so if a 25year old, previously healthy man, comes in with a painful erythematous right calf and he's looking real sick. Clinically you suspect he's having a nec fac, what would your first steps of management be? and what antibiotic would you start him on? why?
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    « Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 04:07:24 pm »

    so if a 25year old, previously healthy man, comes in with a painful erythematous right calf and he's looking real sick. Clinically you suspect he's having a nec fac, what would your first steps of management be? and what antibiotic would you start him on? why?

    NF is mostly caused by group A streptococus. Therefore intravenous antibiotics targeting gram possitive cocci like amoxillin will be appropriate.
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    « Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 09:06:20 am »

    Suspected necrotizing fasciitis

    - Take blood for FBC, BUN, CRP, blood culture, wound swab, Plain X ray
    - IV access, fluid resuscitation according to clinical state
    - IV antibiotics (as most cases are polymicrobial, empirical broad spectrum antibiotic should be used- cover Gram +ve cocci, facultative anaerobic Gram –ve rods and anaerobics- combination of Penicillin, gentamicin [check renal function prior to administration], metronidazole/ clindamycin)
    - Subsequent antibiotic will be guided by result of culture and sensitivity
    - Pain relief
    - Prepare whole blood and clotting products for the patient before surgery is essential
    - Aggressive surgical debridement (without delay)
    - Excise all non-viable tissue
    - Further surgical exploration 24 to 48 hours later (ensure infectious process not extended)
    - Repeated debridement may be necessary until the infection has been controlled adequately
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    « Reply #5 on: May 04, 2007, 06:32:31 am »

    Well said. Penicillin is the broad-spec of choice simply cos it's cheap and gives a good blanket I suppose.

    SO what guidelines do you follow to estimate/ manage fluid resuscitation? HOw do you determine if adequate resuscitation is achieved? IF the pt were to have immediate surgery, how would you determine maintenance IV fluid? (this is relevant to 1st Q)

    What would you prescribe for pain relief?
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    « Reply #6 on: May 04, 2007, 10:39:50 am »

    Patient should be resuscitated according to his or her clinical state

    Assessment of volume status:
    1. Cold peripheries (vasoconstriction)
    2. Increased capillary refill time
    3. Tachycardia (often the first measurable sign)
    4. Increase respiratory rate
    5. Metabolic acidosis (anabolic metabolism of inadequately perfused cells, producing lactic acidosis)
    6. Hypotension  (late sign)
    7. Reduced urine output
    8. Reduced conscious level

    Standard, large (14 to 16 gauge) peripheral IV catheters are adequate for most fluid resuscitation
    If patient is in shock, infuse 1 L of crystalloid (0.9%NS) in 10 to 15 min
    (Crystalloid resuscitates both intravascular and interstitial space and promotes urine output)
    Patient with intravenous volume depletion without shock can receive 500ml/h infusion of crystalloid
    Reassess patient’s clinical state
    continue infusion if necessary

    Adequate end organ perfusion is best indicated by urine output of >0.5 to 1 ml/kg/hr
    Heart rate, mental status and capillary refill may be unreliable


    references:
    fluid resuscitation, http://www.surgicalcriticalcare.net/Guidelines/fluid_resuscitation.pdf
    Acute care, volume resuscitation, http://www.studentbmj.com/issues/04/04/education/144.php
    intravenous resuscitation, http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec06/ch067/ch067c.html


    correct me if i am wrong. keen to learn more. thanks in advance  Grin
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    « Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 08:54:29 pm »

    Over the last several years, you've heard stories about a flesh-eating bacteria that can dissolve muscles and skin, leading to amputations and even death. This supposedly new disease may be caused by taking non-steroidal anti inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofin, aspirin, Motrin and Tolectin when you are infected with a beta strep germ. A report in the New Zealand Medical Journal showed that five of seven cases of flesh-eating bacteria occurred in people who took these pain medicines.

    When you get an infection, certain white blood cells called macrophages produce a chemical called tumor necrosis factor, which travels to your brain and causes your body to produce prostaglandins that cause fever and shut off tumor necrosis factor. Aspirin and nonsteroidal anti inflammatory drugs block the production of prostaglandins, causing the white blood cells to keep on producing tumor necrosis factor. This can allow the bacteria to spread through the body, producing toxins which dissolve tissue and even cause shock and death.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 11:50:35 pm »

    what do you mean by beta strep germ? is it the strep throat infection? how does it diagnose? and what are the significant way to prevent this kind of infection?
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    « Reply #9 on: October 11, 2009, 05:52:47 am »

    This is just one more reason why you should always wash your hands and keep things clean!
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    « Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 01:28:35 pm »

    Well I have heard stories about a flesh-eating bacteria that can dissolve muscles and skin, leading to amputations and even death. This supposedly new disease may be caused by taking non-steroidal anti inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofin, aspirin, Motrin and Tolectin when you are infected with a beta strep germ.
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    « Reply #11 on: November 09, 2010, 09:07:33 pm »

    It sounds like a relatively new disease
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    « Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 01:51:37 am »

    This allegedly new ache may be acquired by demography non-steroidal anti anarchic drugs such as ibuprofin, aspirin, Motrin and Tolectin if you are adulterated with a beta strep germ.
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